gph
2:24 Mon Mar 7
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Liverpool beat us at Anfield, but they needed a massive helping hand from the ref, who not only bought a Paul Walsh dive in the penalty box, but sent off Ray Stewart for dissent.
My feeling was that we were going to beat them until that point.
If all the other results had gone the same way as they actually did, but we had got the win at Anfield we deserved, we would have been Champions, with 87 points, pipping Everton with 86 and Liverpool with 85.
Everyone else was miles behind.
The last 9 League games this time are going to have to be pretty good to match 1986.
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DJH
12:57 Mon Mar 7
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Also I would like to add we averaged 2 points a game in 85/86 so as a crude calculation it would mean a 76 points haul over a 38 game season which in the last decade or so would have generally got us 3rd and nowhere near the title, it will be interesting see to how close such a total gets you this season to winning it.
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DJH
12:41 Mon Mar 7
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DaveT
The run in we faced was something else wasn't it, there were a few Monday. Wednesday and Saturday weeks amongst those final weeks to lose the odd unexpected game really was understandable and I can't help our Cup exit was as much due to having to play Sheff Wed a few days after Manchester United game was than the quality of the opposition.
Had we had a sensible run in who knows we might have been talking about a great double winning side of ours but in truth I doubt it as Liverpool and Everton were really the top drawer sides of that era and sadly for us they both turned up in 1985/86 something that for Spurs and Leicester hasn't happened this season with the likes of Man City, Chelsea, etc.
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SDKFZ 222
12:37 Mon Mar 7
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That was my first season as a season ticket hold, rather coincidentally (prior to that I had been a North Bank regular) so I managed to see every home match. I also saw the majority of aways as well.
The final run in was manic, but winning at West Brom on the Saturday, only to be denied by a limp Chelsea display at home to Liverpool was hard to take. A trip to Everton, I think on the Monday afterwards, was merely to play for runners up but by then our boys had totally run out of steam and we crashed to a 3-1 loss. Does anyone remember the big police sergeant standing in front of our end, being pelted with coins, but puffing his chest out like Desperate Dan and watching them bounce off of him? He looked like a right hard ex RSM.
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DaveT
12:22 Mon Mar 7
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Doesn't compare really as that season we should have won the league. Fixture backlog screwed it and I always say it wasn't Chelsea defeat that did us it was the away losses at Arsenal, Villa and Forest, games we should have won
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mentor
12:12 Mon Mar 7
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It is somtimes implied that the wheel turns to signify changing trends. Well what we have here, compared with 1986, is a different wheel on a different path.
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claret on my shirt
11:05 Sun Mar 6
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Rodfarts only hated Nobles parents in 86
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steveiron64
11:04 Sun Mar 6
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I was at university that year and got to see several games home and away - we always knew we were a couple of places away from actually clinching the league but we expected to win games and looked like we would win games. We had teams on the back foot home and away from the off.
This team is right up there but I would say not quite as the boys of 86. The unexpected inconsistency of the so called top four to six clubs has been a factor too this season.
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DJH
11:03 Sun Mar 6
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Takashi Miike
I am not saying that we are not a good side or will not get better just that if the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City perform as really should be then even with no fall in the quality in our side it wouldn't be the biggest shock to find ourselves much further away from the top 4 than we are now, I simply fear this is a freak season with credit to us and more so Leicester and Spurs in taking full advantage of it.
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Hammer and Pickle
11:02 Sun Mar 6
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While you continue to celebrate 16-year-old boys, _antly.
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Lily Hammer
11:02 Sun Mar 6
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The Boleyn Boys
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Ronald_antly
11:00 Sun Mar 6
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In ten years time, people will no longer be celebrating 'The Boys of 86'.
It will be all about 'The Boys of 16'.
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Lily Hammer
10:36 Sun Mar 6
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The main comparison is that now, like then, I feel like we can beat anyone. Not just in the ironic way I believe it before any match in any season, but genuine belief bordering on expectation.
The 2nd division promotion with Brooking & co was a bit before my attendance time, so only in 85/86 and now have I had this feeling.
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Takashi Miike
10:34 Sun Mar 6
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comma, i was going then. no armchair until roeder turned up
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yngwies Cat
10:31 Sun Mar 6
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Shorts were a lot tighter
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,
10:31 Sun Mar 6
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The biggest difference for me is that the armchair fans did not see any footage until January of that season because of a TV money dispute.
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Takashi Miike
10:30 Sun Mar 6
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*with two or three*
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Takashi Miike
10:30 Sun Mar 6
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DJH, id agree with that if it wasn't for us playing in a similar style up to boxing day last year and then Allardyce decided 'overachievement was dangerous'. i think we two or three more decent players and Samuelson back we'll be even stronger next year. we just need a better year with injuries, maybe relay the training ground turf? fuck knows what causes all these knocks but it can't be just down to luck
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DJH
10:25 Sun Mar 6
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Sxboy_66 10:00 Sun Mar 6
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The reason I didn't really want to go down that path is I don't think this season is a real reflection of the modern era and is a much a freak of loads of different things unusually all happening at once that has resulted to a season that is almost a throw back to the pre-Premier League days in how the league is being played out.
I hope I am wrong but I fear this season is a bit of a freak and a closer to normal service will resume next season and it might give a different perspective to the achievements of clubs like Spurs, Leicester and to some extent us this year.
Ultimately having said all that you can only compete with what you are up against at that time so I think what you actually achieve whilst avoiding a debate about the relevant standards of it is the most objective way to judge how good a side was.
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RH
10:24 Sun Mar 6
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We had a poor start that season and were around 18th after about 10 games , then we went on an amazing run where we won about 9 on the bounce . Load of FA cup replays took their toll a bit and we were playing on Mon , Wed and Saturday for about 3 weeks to catch up .
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ludo21
10:23 Sun Mar 6
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Of course the main difference was that there was no European football as a reward.
Leicester will be okay because CL will help them keep their best players and attract others.... problem for them may come the year after... if they fail to qualify for Europe again, which is highly likely as squad will be severely stretched, plenty of players will move on at that stage. Ranieri also not the youngest!
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